Town Meeting Set For Gang Talk
UPDATE: Town Hall Meeting on Gang Violence Draws Hundreds
Grassroots group teams up with police for June 18 event
By Sondra Murphy
Ojai Valley residents who want to work proactively to eliminate gang violence are encouraged to attend a town hall meeting on June 18.
Sponsored by Heal the Community, a group of local parents and residents impacted by the April gang-related murder of Seth Scarminach, the forum will allow residents to discuss the issue of gangs in our valley with a panel of community leaders and experts.
The panel will include deputies from the Ventura County Sheriff’s Major Crimes Division and Gang Unit, Ojai Valley Community Church pastor Paul Bergmann, members of the S.A.F.E. Coalition and Ojai Police Chief Capt. Chris Dunn.
Heal the Community has arranged Spanish translation simulcast into wireless head sets during the meeting. “Our main goal at Heal the Community is we want to provide a public forum for people to make statements, ask questions and get answers,” said HTC member Dusty Fernandez. She said that there will be a suggestion box that the club will use to help direct the focus of future meetings. “We will take all the information from this meeting and present it back to the community at a meeting in August. That will steer us in the direction we’ll go next.”
People will also be able to sign up for Neighborhood Watch programs, donate to HTC and get literature on many related issues and programs. “We’re not discriminating against anyone in this valley,” Fernandez said. “We want to bring all groups together in a peaceful meeting. We’re excited. We think there’s going to be a really big turnout.”
The June 18 meeting is at 6:30 p.m. in the Matilija Junior High School Auditorium.
For information on becoming a part of Heal the Community or to sign up to help with the meeting setup or cleanup, call 649-1466 or 640-0995.
We speak ENGLISH in this country!
Anonymous
9 Jun 09 at 5:27 pm
Dunn has done nothing. Call the Border Patrol and get
it over with.
a citizen
9 Jun 09 at 8:36 pm
This state was originally a Spanish speaking province and, like it or not, many of our citizens still speak the language and it makes sense to hold meetings in two languages. Check out the dual language areas of Canada.
Old timer
9 Jun 09 at 10:14 pm
There is no official language in this country. There are several native languages, none of which is English. Even the invading colonists spoke a variety of languages. Small-minded bigotry has caused many problems, and never solved a single one. I hope that the prior comments are not an indication of what we can expect at the meeting.
get real
9 Jun 09 at 10:24 pm
How can they (police) make any money if they deport? They loose their jobs on top of it.
As the crime rate would actually drop.
Clearly it is not how can we get rid of said persons, its more like how can we get more and expand the problems, to make way for more laws and more law enforcement and more $$$$$$$.
Military and police are at an all-time high as far as demand goes (mainly in the DEA vs peace officer field).
War on drugs not the war on crime.
Over the last nine months the blotter activity has been unchanged how are the stats down??
Border patrol?
How do you patrol something that is non-existent?
I am no expert but the 4 guys patrolling the border are not going to stop 3or4 million people from walking over an invisible line in the dirt.
The police should kick down some cash or equipment to the B.P. that would ease up on the strain of our local law enforcement.
It appears that law enforcement gets man power, vehicles, drones, air ships w/flir,etc apparently for the pot plants and looking threw the walls of houses.
All the capability to do the job of both but for some reason just can’t or won’t get it done in the last 20yrs.
to: ” We speak ENGLISH in this country!”
Anonymous
9 Jun 09 at 5:27 pm
Free speech covers all spoken languages for a good reason, no voice will be silenced or ignored yours,mine or theirs.
A tax added to the proses of becoming legal for English training or electronic translators (for police and other services) would not be unreasonable.
Good jobs could be available in that market.
It is very hard to stop a large surge of water but diverting it “symbiosis” makes it a partnership.
Mr.smith
10 Jun 09 at 12:37 am
This is an important event and much-needed opportunity for community dialog. Thank you for doing this.
Lisa Snider
10 Jun 09 at 7:43 am
english ,spanish, etc…people are people we need a strong comunity.if we stick togather and stand,things will happen and change for the better.it’s like having our own gang but for god causes.why not mix it up?orange ,blue,black,white,purple,green…who cares support is support.gangs suck!!!i think they should be punished i think we could find many comunity projects that need repair,there young and strong put them to work!punishment!after all they are children.dont forget all the lives that have been lost to,violence,murders,crashes.do whats right!racism unfortunately is a generational handicapp in all our lives.only we as a comunity can make a difference togather.brother to brother.i dont care what color you are.who you are and what you stand up for is what defines you and is future.so lets put aside all this crap and form a strong circle,buckle down for the bumpy ride and do this to save the kids! and the futre,ours, yours ,theirs.COMUNITY: All the PEOPLE living in a city.SOCIETY,FRIENDLY ASSOCIATION,A GROUP OF PEOPLE LIVING TOGATHER AND HAVING INTEREST IN COMMON.
real people/real comunity!join togather..
10 Jun 09 at 10:20 am
Yawn. “Real People”, I am so encouraged to know that my tax dollars paid for your education! Did you fall asleep in English class? For 12 years??!!
Anon.5
10 Jun 09 at 11:00 am
anon 5, you must have been asleep for the etiquette lesson…this meeting is a good idea…how lucky we are that people are willing to put themselves out there for the good of the community
P.S. commas go inside the quotes
don't knock it
10 Jun 09 at 2:20 pm
actually,ive been a victim to some of these tradgedys unfortunately,and had to start life a little earlier than others,i might not know how to spell and had some really sucky teachers when i went to school,sorry about your tax dollars,but i have been working sense i was 12yrs. old and paid in on my time,so its not a complete waste.to ease your mind.but i do know a little about life and death.and lucky to have survived.hope more people dont get hurt.and hope that things get better.and maybe when someone asks for help like i did,they can actually get it.and im not writing to be proper but real.i have nothing to curtain.
real people/real comunity!join togather..
10 Jun 09 at 3:16 pm
The last two comments were written by total jerks! What did I do to deserve these tirades?
Anon.5
10 Jun 09 at 3:49 pm
It was not a ‘spanish’ province ‘originally’ natives inhabited the area, DUH!
Pedroc
10 Jun 09 at 4:10 pm
yea im kinda a jerk but glad that people are paying attention and thats great!keep it going and staying alert.have a great day!!!”smiling”
Anonymous
10 Jun 09 at 5:33 pm
Just ignore Anon.5 ~ AKA John Doe or James Hatch. He’s a troll who has antagonistic tendencies. The name, Anon 5 used to belong to someone else until he took it over to make really dumb comments , simply to be an a$$. He writes equally dumb comments as John Doe but his ego is more attached to the John Doe thing, by being Anon.5, originally someone elses name he feels safe to let the troll inside himself free.
Anonymous
10 Jun 09 at 6:41 pm
Hey there, california hottie here. It’s great to see people blogging about such an important issue. All the hub-bub about a bi-lingual meeting is sad. could you imagine being a law abiding, honest latino in our community right now? they are just as afraid as all the rest of town. they could be targeted as gang bangers, just because of their color of skin. The Spanish simulcast will not be heard during that meeting. it say’s in the paper they will be wearing head sets so they my join in on this much needed meeting.we have a racial divide that could paralyze any community, anywhere. the point is to question authority, don’t sit at your computer and complain. do something , go to that meeting for pete’s sake.Will you be there? we will! If you aren’t a part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
california hottie
10 Jun 09 at 8:21 pm
United,we as a community can be the change that we all deserve.It is only when we sit back and tell others that “someone should do something!” that nothing is accomplished.Please help make a difference in the lives of yourself and everyone around you.I thought the focus of this town hall meeting was to let ALL the community be heard, not just certain members.Who has decided that they are above the next? Can we not lay down our differences to come together and help find solutions to OUR town problems?What was the reason for moving to this wonderful valley in the first place? Can you remember why? Do any children of our valley deserve to be murdered? We all know the answer is a resounding NO! Now is your chance to stand and be heard! No more excuses !!! I challenge all of the ojai valley from the summit to casitas springs to come to the june 18 town hall meeting and make a difference! We only have more of our youth to lose! Can we afford to let that happen? Again you know the answer………NO!
pollyanna
10 Jun 09 at 10:54 pm
The problem is if anyone speaks honestly, directly re OSL or anything of that nature in this town, they will be labeled, (not in any particular order) bigots, rascists, white supremicists, republicans, conservatives etc The politically correct, lockstep agenda that is Ojai and to some extent California has resulted in the situation we now have. When people try to stand up in Ojai whether its inappropriate books not sanctioned by the ed code or whatever, they are labeled (see above) dismissed and their reps are torn apart without support from our school board or officials…. Who wants to speak up in that atmosphere? no thanks .. its easier to just fly under the radar and ignore the graffiti and gangs and drugs and murders. no wonder people just give up and become gun owners — not something I approve of but certainly something I am beginning to understand and think about doing to protect my family and property.
anonomous
11 Jun 09 at 1:43 pm
Let’s face it, anon.5 is insane. Its time we throw the book at these idiots. Anon., you are the only troll lurking under the bridge.
john doe
11 Jun 09 at 2:02 pm
What is (deleted) (Ventura Housing Authority) trying
to do here in the Ojai Valley? Turn us into another
yuppie suburb or a magnet for illegal immigration?
taxpayer
11 Jun 09 at 2:19 pm
Hey Pollyanna, and you too California Hottie,! It’s not so often I get so much attention from the lasses, since I pulled my groin down at Solimar, surfing, but hey! Gonna be there! appreciate the concern. Just hoping everyone brings their A game. What is this now 2009? and it’s only a recent concern… Uh, I remember and WOW! It seems like only yesterday (or every single one if you count ‘em) that there was a specific family name, street address, and list of affiliates that was known throughout the local community that stemmed this growing epidemic. But, since Ojai’s been a training ground for newbie cops for the last ….unspoken time, it’s no wonder this has been a minor oversight. And it’s great to know whtat the police think might help what they have no idea about. What can I do to help?
Maury Gould
11 Jun 09 at 4:35 pm
John Doe, we all know you are both Anon 5 and John Doe because of your slip up , remember? You were going back and forth as the two and you forgot to change your identity and walla! It was all out in plain view for anyone who cared to notice! I suppose that I was the only one who cared and I was the only one who noticed, and I bet I am still the only one who notices so go on ahead with your charade because no one else gives a flying buttress what you say!!
Anonymous
11 Jun 09 at 5:20 pm
English is the official language, Spanish is not, immigrants must embrace their new culture not maintain their old one and drive around with ‘brown pride’ on their cars. Imagine if a white person drove around with ‘white pride’ on their car! Double standards? Yes! This isn’t a two way street. If an english speaker lived in a small town in Mexico would they do what English speakers are here? No. Get off the emotional rollercoasters people.
Tree Lover 3
11 Jun 09 at 7:37 pm
If it is the responsibility of the immigrants to assimilate and blend in, then where are the buffalo, the teepees, and the hogans? How can there even exist a group of Native Americans known a “Mission Indians”? The Spanish invaded California before the English-speaking European immigrants did. Millions of people from all over the world have come to this country for a variety of reasons, some more honorable than others. Historically, Americans have taken pride in our “melting pot” culture. Unfortunately, Americans have also selected out various immigrant groups for scapegoating every time the economy takes a hit. English is NOT the official language of the United States – there is not official language. Perhaps you Tree Lover 3 would benefit from a U.S. history course at one of our local colleges?
get real
12 Jun 09 at 9:39 am
No and no. But call me and ask. I’m listed.
Lisa Snider
12 Jun 09 at 12:11 pm
get real – the melting pot analogy implies that the
various ‘ingredients’ blended together become one. If our country becomes segregated into isolated communities that refuse to assimilate with one another and do not embrace a single culture and language – then we are doomed. The millions who have came to our country in past immigration cycles have assimilated into, adopted and contributed to the culture, as well as having learned the common language (which IS English). Perhaps you get real would benefit from a booster shot of common sense?
Anonymous
12 Jun 09 at 1:00 pm
RE: get real
12 Jun 09 at 9:39 am
If that’s true, then why do we teach English as a primary language in all our schools??
You are a complacent “I will do as I am told” can’t think for yourself kool-aid drinker(too much fox news).
If the illegal immigrants assimilate so well why do they not pay this country back for the medical,schools,roads,police,court fines,DUI fines or paying into SSI like the rest of us.
Its a joke why pay your way when you can cheat,cut ahead in line and side step all our laws.
Then you expect them to respect and fallow the rest of our laws. yeah right!!!!
When you look at it this way it is free to feed,house,police,6-12+million people.(to the illegals its free)
I must make it clear it’s not the immigrants that I blame,despise or dislike, nor do I think a country wide deporting is the answer, we need to hold our elected officials accountable for the massive damage they caused by allowing this.
There is a reason, the North American Union then we will be a true melting pot you will see your savings melt away.
Go ahead and trade your children’s future so no one calls you a racist.
By the way what language are ALL the road signs on ALL the roads written in? but I’m sure it’s just coencidence.
If you can afford a new car and 20′s then you can pay taxes and/or child support.
The worst is the unseen tax on us all, inflation from the fed printing and flooding the US and chinese markets with fresh bills.
The main point I have is a majority of crime locally is not because of the language osl speaks.
so punishing members of our community who don’t fully understand English is wrong, obviously osl representatives will not be present at the meeting, but their mothers and fathers might be and may not be fully aware of what this small group has been up to.
deny no one the chance to be involved in the community they live in regardless of the language they speak.
legal tax paying immigrant
12 Jun 09 at 2:05 pm
Anonymous 1pm. Your interpretation of melting pot is accurate, and I did not mean anything different. My understanding of the comments above about English was that some people felt that all immigrants should set aside their native culture and language, rather than adding them to the mix. Our country benefits from the experience and perspectives of such diverse groups. Learning English is not the same as giving up or barring other languages. In most countries, students are required to become bi-lingual or tri-lingual. It is a shame that we have not followed suit. Until the Bear Flag Revolt (and in many regions long afterwards), the “common” language in California (especially southern) was Spanish, not English.
get real
12 Jun 09 at 2:12 pm
California has become a very boring place. Is it diverse? I don’t think so. Why do we just have anglo
Americans and mestizos (Mexicans)? Let’s mix it up
and have some Hungarians and Swedish. Why does the
Border Patrol only allow some and others no? Mexicans
are killing white people because there’s nobody else
to blame for their problems in North America. This will
continue until the FBI and the ICE intervene and put
an end to it. Liberal Democrats of the Ojai Valley live
in the most expensive homes and laugh at the poor who
they supposedly represent. Look at what happened in
Europe last weekend. The far right overwhelmingly
won the elections in voting for the European Parliament. North America next?
trailer park trash
12 Jun 09 at 5:58 pm
If we go live in another country we are expected to 1. learn the language of that country — learning the language of that country is not ignoring our own culture, it means as part of moving to a country we agree to be part of it and language is a huge part of being able to successfully live in that country ie TO WORK and FUNCTION successfully etc 2. obey the laws including the immigration laws of that country and to not do that by definition without any racist subtext is to face the music of the laws and punishment of that country. Its not that complicated.
anonomous
12 Jun 09 at 7:03 pm
if you want to be part of the solution, attend the meeting on 6/18. if you want to be part of the problem, continue ranting here.
...
13 Jun 09 at 12:22 pm
nothing will get better because the infrastructure and government of this town has an agenda that does not further truth and reality.
anonomous
14 Jun 09 at 5:31 pm
Who is the “problem”? What is the “meeting”? The
situation has calmed down considerably. Matilija
Auditorium should be used to feed and house the
poor. Not a political rally for LULAC and MECHA.
I heard they were in charge along with the Latino
Police Officers Association.
anonymous
14 Jun 09 at 9:22 pm
Its all 4 show.
The k is for captain insano
15 Jun 09 at 9:26 am
Kind of like the titanic as the ship sinks the band keeps playing on.
The k is for captain insano
15 Jun 09 at 9:30 am
Or when the mind is lost, yet you continue to write, much like a lizard’s tale moves after it is detached from the body. Capt. Insano, those thoughts that pop into your mind are just involuntary convulsions. You would be better off ignoring them.
Anon.5
15 Jun 09 at 12:03 pm
ooohhh man good one roflmao
It must have hurt thinking that hard!!!
How is james doe and john hatch doing today?
Is the librery’s a/c on today?
Too hot in the park??
The k is for captain insano
15 Jun 09 at 1:46 pm
ignore the guy who can’t spell tail.
ignore
15 Jun 09 at 1:47 pm
rearranging deck chairs on the titanic
anonomous
15 Jun 09 at 2:40 pm
yyeeeeeesssssssss
The k is for captain insano
15 Jun 09 at 3:48 pm
Stealing my lines? If you recall, insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result. You chose your name wisely this time, Mrs. Smith.
Anon.5
15 Jun 09 at 4:48 pm
I got a suggestion for the box, arrest people who break the law, or shut up.
Meatball Lamborgini
15 Jun 09 at 5:44 pm
Futile is the term.
As in your futile attempts to assassinate big k’s name
will be fruitless!
meat aka j.d.j.h.anon5 and now meat
Sane laws = a sane world.
Insanity breads insanity.
The k is for captain insano
15 Jun 09 at 8:31 pm
Welcome to the new world order as it is already here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F09ta5JaEfY&feature=channel
The k is for captain insano
15 Jun 09 at 8:38 pm
Pvt. Wacko,
Welcome to the real world. You will be washed out by the new world order. Sad to say, you will even lose your library privileges. What will you do then? The cops are on the way, they spotted your flashlight and the lit computer monitor in the library. Will the fourth amendment protect you then?
Anon.5
15 Jun 09 at 9:11 pm
seriously folks, i’m not sure why some of you write anything except to read your name in print.This town hall meeting is for everyone to come together for the common good of the community. I hope they pack the auditorium, I hope they have seating for those who can’t fit inside. It’s time to make the police deal with the street gangs, who by the way are finally being acknowledged as a problem. Be a part of the solution. Join a neighborhood watch, say hi to your neighbors, say hi to a stranger. get involved for pete’s sake.
california hottie
16 Jun 09 at 12:00 am
Yawn. “Real People”, I am so encouraged to know that my tax dollars paid for your education! Did you fall asleep in English class? For 12 years??!!
Anon.5
10 Jun 09 at 11:00 am
Your tax dollars are going to off shore banks funding illegal wars not to fund our schools.
The k is for captain insano
16 Jun 09 at 12:50 am
why do we need a meeting for the police to know there is a gang problem — they just identified the stabbing at christmas as gang related and with the recent murder, the graffiti, the drugs, its not that hard to figure out we need a gang detail and need law enforcement to (heres an idea) enforce the laws and arrest them and get these gangs out of ojai … why do we need meetings for our public officials to do their jobs??
anonomous
16 Jun 09 at 9:09 am
Pvt. Wacko,
Welcome to the real world. You will be washed out by the new world order. Sad to say, you will even lose your library privileges. What will you do then? The cops are on the way, they spotted your flashlight and the lit computer monitor in the library. Will the fourth amendment protect you then?
Anon.5
15 Jun 09 at 9:11 pm
yep whatever you say
ssdd
Krazoid Pvt. Wacko
16 Jun 09 at 5:29 pm
I would rather be crazy any day then to be a elitist piece of trash like yourself!
Krazoid Pvt. Wacko
16 Jun 09 at 5:31 pm
California hottie is no hottie, believe me, I KNOW.
Elliot Hess
16 Jun 09 at 8:42 pm
OVN – could you please remove all of the personal potshots?? There are some important issues, and some intelligent suggestions, but they are hard to find through all of the babble!!!
get real
16 Jun 09 at 10:24 pm
OVN bloggers have overwhelmingly told us they don’t want us to select which postings are removed. We will, however, remove or modify by adding “(deleted)” to those we feel are vulgar or threatening. This forum is provided for people to state their opinions, not ours.
Lenny Roberts
17 Jun 09 at 6:59 am
I’m with “get real.” How can we have meaningful relevant exchanges without personal attacks and off-topic meanderings? Come up with a comment policy (beyond vulgar and threatening) and enforce it. The childish name-calling, at the very least, has got to go.
OVN Blogger
17 Jun 09 at 8:17 am
No,
You need to go. The childish name-calling separates the wheat from the chaffe. Who cares if you have an opinion if you can’t stand up to the pressure.
The blog is like a kitchen. If you can’t handle the heat, go somewhere else.
Anon.5
17 Jun 09 at 9:35 am
Point proven. Ball is now in your court, Editor. I hope you will encourage relevance, civility and respect on your blog.
OVN Blogger to Editor
17 Jun 09 at 10:29 am
Anon.5, if you can’t play fair, plan to take a seat on the bench. I see nowhere on this page any contribution from you to the discussion about Heal the Community’s town meeting. When you are ready to play fair, we will let you back in the game. Until then, Ojai is gearing up to bring people together to discuss solutions and make our town safe again. We hope you will be part of the solution and contribute to meaninful, intelligent dialog.
Play Fair
17 Jun 09 at 10:37 am
Shut up, you jerk. This blog is about a town meeting to discuss pervasiveness of gangs and how to get rid of them, not you pithy remarks about demeanor of remarks. I agree with Anon.5, if you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen.
Anonymous
17 Jun 09 at 12:05 pm
words like “jerk” and “idiot” are instant debate killers. this thread is dead. i’ll be at the meeting.
warm the bench
17 Jun 09 at 2:15 pm
If everyone is so offended then don’t read the blog, I think it is good that the paper lets people say whatever they want to say, it is America, not China after all. I don’t contribute to these posts but do read them and some make good points, others are amusing, and those I don’t like I skim over to the next one. I think it is stupid to get so offended about inane comments. It’s just a blog. I think this will be my only contribution as I am certain I’ll get some entertaining responses. Have fun people!
Bill
17 Jun 09 at 3:30 pm
I declare this thread is alive to counter the previous unilateral claim it is dead. Huzzah!
Lucid pie
17 Jun 09 at 3:34 pm
I’m sorry for all the recent posts that are interpreted to be mean and off-point. I take my job as your leader very seriously and work very hard at providing well-thought remarks. I guess I have failed you all. I apologize for my failure.
I think the town hall meeting is really important. I plan on attending. I think the gang problem is a real issue, but not a new one. It is about time we had this meeting.
I may have been fired from my job today for caring too much, but that will not stop me from offering opinions that cut like the sharpened edge of a knife, opinions that offer solutions where others only see problems. That will not stop me from being the voice of reason in a chaotic world.
Still, though, Captain Krazoid is out of control. His comments are delusional and wreaked in conspiracy theories. Let’s face it, Krazoid doesn’t belong here. I, however, do belong here.
You have my word that I will do my best to better serve my constituents in every possible way. Trust me, I won’t let you down.
I have earned your trust. I only ask that you continue to believe. Now is not the time to jump ship.
Anon.5
17 Jun 09 at 4:19 pm
Anon. 5 you have no constituents. The Anonymous guy saying shut up you jerk was you responding in support of yourself.
Krazoid 5
18 Jun 09 at 6:50 am
I dont know where you got the idea that we trust you.
Anon10
18 Jun 09 at 6:51 am
I agree
Tooth Lord
18 Jun 09 at 9:36 am
Anon 10 and Krazoid 5,
You both are nothing more than total idiots speaking from the same mouth. What a cooincidence? Both comments within a minute of each other. Get a life, you idiot. I am not counting on support from the fringe element such as your split self. My support comes from the base, the grassroots working class, from those based in reality.
You are an idiot Krazoid. Bring something to the table before you come back. Anon.5 brings a vision to the table. His voice will be heard at the town meeting tonight. Do yourself a favor, K, lay off the fortys in the park before the meeting.
Anon.5
Truth Coalition
Anon.5
18 Jun 09 at 10:03 am
Anon. 5 = Multiple Personalities Syndrome. We should pity him.
bench warmer
18 Jun 09 at 12:04 pm
A5: 3 x idiots! I thought you were turning over a new leaf. Bring your A-game tonight, because this just isn’t it and you will most certainly be benched if you can’t engage in more sportsman-like behavior. Heal the Community needs winners and a good example for our youth.
warm the bench
18 Jun 09 at 12:17 pm
Warm The Bench,
I see what you mean. I called them idiots three times. But aren’t they! Let’s face it, call a spade a spade. These jerks (is that better?) are simply out to sabotage my good deeds. I guess it is true that no good deed goes unpunished.
Anon.5
18 Jun 09 at 3:22 pm
i started a thread on the Ojai Post for civil, adult discussion of these issues and specifically of this meeting. There are usage rules there, so if you want to say something productive, come on over.
evan austin
18 Jun 09 at 8:19 pm
Keep living in your own little world Anon.5.
btw..I didn’t post twice yesterday, like you ass-umed.
Anon10
18 Jun 09 at 9:56 pm
take our town back
SOONTO LEAVE
18 Jun 09 at 10:14 pm
Down with the censorship on your ‘ojai post’, leave us alone here on our free speech blog ‘evan’.
Ulster
18 Jun 09 at 10:39 pm
ass-umed! Good one Anon10. Anon5 is like a twig in a field.
Anon1000000000
19 Jun 09 at 8:48 am
Funny all you idiots are more concerned about Anon.5 than the meeting last night. I attended. Where were you? I am the guy that offered solutions when everyone else was concerned with problems. Why? Because that is what I do. What do you do? Absolutely nothing! You bring nothing to the table.
Evan, by looking at your picture I can tell you are a total idiot. Keep your fairy site to your wuss friends. Here at OVN Blog, this is the big leagues.
Anon.5
19 Jun 09 at 10:08 am
Thanks, evan. It was a heated evening. I look forward to participating in the discussion. Whether there are guidelines or not in a blog, everyone is still free (because of our country’s censorship laws) to participate or not, and perhaps even start their own blog for free and establish their own guidelines (or not).
Lisa Snider
19 Jun 09 at 10:12 am
Lisa,
Go back to Ventura.
Anon.5
19 Jun 09 at 10:39 am
First, the website i’m writing is weird. No doubt. It’s also been up for a long while, and the thoughts seemed well received at the meeting last evening.
so with the grain of proverbial salt … i feel now that you all were superb. You stepped up. you showed up. you clapped appropriately. this is a great model making opportunity. threads are converging into a confluence. read mark twain again – or for the first time, a suggestion…
weird is a word describing a quickly approaching ‘something’ off the port or starborad – a riverboat captain HAD to be aware of the weirds.
The words on this weird site then are foul: sailor talk. Read as if tipper gore were with you. keepin it real.
so i put myself on blast and this site is the result. i outed my developing career and went batty when parole screwed around with me. so i got into investigative journalism and went on a little second mission.
last night was the end of that mission. today i am unemployed and writing. on ssi with a lot of experience from talking with gang people inside. i really know what is going on and why. i’m trusted because i’m what i claim i am. it’s a unique combination – meaning i can’t earn much and need only a little to begin immediately. financially speaking of course.
where to go from here then? forward.
we all did great – in our respective roles we are all stakeholders. so if we see ourselves as such we ought work together for the sake of the company.
which by the way, some i work with – are larger in employee base than all of us in ojai and pepper pike combined. its not a toot. its a fact. 16K+
i’m willing to back up what is said last night. i’m already aligning in that direction. however – community rescue is not what i will do here. engineering is re-adjustment – think road, water, anything with flow. so we have a problem with communication flow and mostly REAL FLOW. straight talk. not bullshit talk.
Apollo 13 got home because of REAL STRAIGHT COMMUNICATION. we are on spaceship earth. ojai is poised to model to the world community wellness engineering for reals. person by person. neighbor by neighbor – street by street. yes, you bet, i am an agitator. and this is fun. crazy making and rewarding so it must be love and it must be solid ..” and it’s got to be straight from the fight …” jennifer beals?
see you around and about – stop me, question me, i’ll not be standoffish unless i’ve got a meeting and i’ll let you know if i can’t stop then. please, if you see me sitting and you have a thought a comment -whatever – let’s chat. it’s your home holmes. where do you want to go with it today?
i said you have got to stop it! stop being hypocritical. what i didn’t say and will now write is that my partner sara, who was unable to attend – she stated those simple words to me in txt. in a dialog not specifically about this topic -though sara and i always talk on multiple levels.
so. that’s the edict from who i see as the queen of the 805.
i support her. completely and legally will do everything i can to support her daughter – i can only offer adoption publically everyday.
i don’t want her influenced by parents leaving the ‘stuff’ around and then the kids jacking the parents for the hypocrisy. stop it! indeed.
thanks. more on http://www.simplesmj.com
OhiScot
19 Jun 09 at 11:55 am
I’ve never lived in Ventura. Call me, I’m listed and would like to talk with you.
Lisa Snider
19 Jun 09 at 12:18 pm
Nice try Evan- blame your 2 yr old for your early dismissal. I had to leave early because in my crammed little section someone broke wind, and I’m allergic to nauseous stench. You want constructive open dialogue without anyone stepping on your politically correct ballet slippers then go ahead and tippytoe with the mealy mouths over in the corner. I give my free and unabashed opinion whether I’m on this blog, or sipping a latte at the fountain in the park or doing the downward dog at the yogaversity. I’ve addressed this particular issue many times in my personal life, and I didn’t need a town hall meeting to enlighten me(or my neighbors) of anything I wasn’t already aware of, or to convince me any of this will have a societal effect.
Maury Gould
19 Jun 09 at 12:44 pm
Scott who is high- How’s this for WEIRD.. your ship is listing, and your rocket has left our orbit. Ground Control to where’s my bong? the queen bee has landed
and it’s not in the 805. Here’s a new mission: Take a shower and hop the next empty trolley, then transfer on a bus(look for the one with all the illegal aliens heading back to Oxnard) then get off first stop near the ocean. There’s a place called Hobo Jungle it’s where the river meets the sea, shrouded in the bamboo. Here you will find a respit and others of like mind, if you’re lucky maybe Huck Finn
Maury Gould
19 Jun 09 at 1:55 pm
Maury,
Right on point! You should go read his stupid little blog at Ojai Post. What an idiot!
Ojai Scott,
You host a writing workshop!?! I think I could learn more from students in e.s.l. class. Give yourself a break and let go of your false sense of writing ability.
Lisa,
No thanks. You’re not my type.
To All,
Thank you for your support. I’m glad my ideas last night were met with such optisism. Anon.5: A Future You Can Bank On. I would also note that, given my popular ideas last night, I will be running for city council.
Anon.5
19 Jun 09 at 2:15 pm
Anon 5. which speaker were you? I heard them all. Plus if you were there what did they show in the foyer?
attendee
19 Jun 09 at 7:44 pm
What happened at the meeting? I did not make it and was hoping for a report on the content. Would anyone be willing to check in or is this just a site for angry name callers and the mentally ill?
Anonymous
20 Jun 09 at 8:13 am
Anonymous 8:13, there’s content of the substance you’re after on the meeting’s thread on the Ojai Post.
According to this crowd it’s a stupid fairy site full of wusses and idiots, but we’re talking about the meeting and the issues, and so far there’s no name-calling. check it out.
evan austin
20 Jun 09 at 9:25 am
Anonymous,
You don’t believe me? There was an informative bulletin, table, and people sitting and dedication.
Evan,
Who are you trying to kid? There’s absolutely nothing on your site, just a long-winded comment by you that apparently killed the thread.
Anon.5
20 Jun 09 at 3:28 pm
I came to this thread because I was interested in reading about the town meeting at M.J.H.S. Instead of finding information or any sense of resolution, I discovered a trash bin of 85 pointless, offensive, meaningless rantings of what appear to be a bunch of nut cases venting their tired old agendas and poisoned spleens at each other. If this open forum is a representative of the brain trust of Ojai, I am so sorry.
Kittifer
21 Jun 09 at 8:18 am
Kittifer, I share your frustration, but know that it’s really just one person who has been allowed to hijack this thread. Getting back to the point, though, the meeting was a decent first step and there will be another one soon.
LS
21 Jun 09 at 9:17 am
Pitiffer,
I share your frustration. In fact, I have constantly offered solutions where others see problems, only to be constantly belittled and ridiculed. It is about time somebody stated what to me has always been the obvious: Offer solutions, not namecalling.
I will say, though, that I do represent the genius elite of this town, hence, one could call me a brain trust. Did you know that I was the youngest member ever selected for MENSA? I don’t like to brag, but I am pretty smart. This is obvious, and my writings reflect what my supporters already believe: Anon.5, you are a genius, and I am glad to serve you.
Evan, cat got your tongue? By the way, your website, and especially your blogs, are absolute jokes. Get a life, you idiot!
Thank you all for your continued support, especially my latest enrollees, Kittifer and LS.
Anon.5
21 Jun 09 at 12:14 pm
james/anon5/john hatch was the guy in the very back shouting, “deport I have solutions to problems deport,”
“I am so smart I can solve it,”
“Why are you dragging me out?,”
“You officer are an idiot,”
“I love the word idiot”
You get the idea, james shut your hatch!
As far as osl is concerned, if you are not good we will have another meeting about you.
I bet osl is sooo tickled to have the whole towns attention,
name(s) in the paper and what any gang should have, a reputation. good job.
Mr.smith
21 Jun 09 at 6:32 pm
I’m sorry, Anon.5, my husband gets a little out of control sometimes. I left him for ten minutes while I ran to the store to get him preparation h, and here he was, spewing this filth out on the internet.
To the OVN readers, I apologize.
Mrs. Smith
21 Jun 09 at 9:15 pm
Hey stevan staustin, go back to your silly blog! I spit in your direction as you insult but claim you are above it. Boo.
Quick Rabbit
22 Jun 09 at 9:00 pm
Evan is a donkey duck
Jean Luke Seagull
22 Jun 09 at 9:25 pm
Never trust someone with two first names-Evan Austin.
You call me Ray, you can call me Jay but you doesn’t has to call me Johnson. (Ray Jay Johnny even.)
Night at the Meatball Casino
22 Jun 09 at 9:26 pm
the sears catalog maded more sense that Quick Rabbit does.
evan austin
Eels on top of Eels
22 Jun 09 at 9:47 pm
Ray Jay Johnson says “Shut UP”
http://www.followthatdreamproductions.com/Ray%20J
Eels on top of Eels
22 Jun 09 at 9:49 pm
You actually broke into the library just to post that
hatch/miss smith?
All the prep h in the world could not cure my cyber hemroid/james/john/anon5,
I have tons of troll away and yuppie-be-gone, its easy to use and effective, just watch as it turns a self-richous wannabe intellectual, into a 2 yr old complete with cheap Imitations!!
BTW john Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
thanxs!!!
Mr.smith
23 Jun 09 at 5:29 pm
does anyone know if there’s a centralized way to contact Heal the Community, or have contact info for any of the specific conveners?
evan austin
24 Jun 09 at 10:26 pm
No, there isn’t because they aren’t really an organization. They’re just a bunch of confused and angry people. Why do you want to contact ‘them’ anyway? To interview on your anti-OVN blog? Get real smevan smaustin.
Mor Teddly
25 Jun 09 at 9:36 am
yay, free labels and more name-calling! thanks for the help…this is surely where the community’s at.
evan austin
26 Jun 09 at 8:29 am
Even…here’s the contact info that you requested 649-1466 or 640-0995. I too was trying to obtain maybe an email or website address but no luck yet. At the meeting I remember hearing Dusty say that they had only been “Heal the Community” for about 8 weeks. So maybe no one was able to start a website yet. Good luck and if you find something please pass it alone.
As for everyone else…I feel that this town is a fabulous place. We need to come together and make it the type of place where parents feel safe about letting their children ride their bikes down the street to Vons or to the Library or even to the Jolly Cone. All the silly banter on here is useless and not helping the situation. We need to find a solution not contribute to the childish games that these so called “gang members” feel that they possess. As it sounds…since there were hundreds at the meeting, there are many of us that love this town. We want to see these punks gone and want a safe place for our children and grand children…correct? Well may I ask rather then all the name calling and bickering…can we come up with a way to in a sense shut these punks down? I mean, really…the biker gangs are fine…they are, as they said at the meeting “part of the community” and “not hiding” so they’re cool but these other Ojai gangs…com’n…I say gather them all up and drop them in the middle of Colonia and see how long they last. There must be a way to keep this place the safe Ojai that it once was so my children can ride their bikes to Gramma and Grampa’s house without me worrying that some illegal will whistle to them or try to grab them or even have some gang member have some “fight” in front of them and one of them get stabbed. This is crazy!
A New Voice
1 Jul 09 at 8:05 pm
There were hundreds of racsists at the meeting an their secretly racist hippy friends like the peace coalition. It’s just like the patriot act, sounds good but is the opposite. And this stupid heal the community effort is an outlandish effort that will do nothing. They’ve been around for months and done nothing because there is nothing for them to do, we have police. Maybe these racists will hand out red shirts to show their ‘solidarity’.
Little Big Bob
2 Jul 09 at 9:59 am
Bob’s Big Boy,
Stuff your piehole with another hamburger. Maybe that way your sugar level will even out so that you can think clearly.
Your comments do nothing. Your existence is nothing. You, Mr. Boy, are nothing.
Anon.5
2 Jul 09 at 1:54 pm
Anon. 5-
Im am an overwieght person and I am upset that you find it prudent to make fun of Little Big Bob with slurs having to do with weight at possible health conditions that he may have. Get a life sir-I doubt you’d say the same thing with regard to sexual orientation or race. Or would you?
Either way you’re wrong.
Sara Sordino
2 Jul 09 at 6:20 pm