OV Men Suspected In Pier Beating
FROM THE VENTURA POLICE DEPARTMENT:
INCIDENT: Two people beaten at Ventura Pier, Sunday, 9/20/09, 1:10 a.m.
ARRESTED:
Richard Blume 21, Oak View
Francisco Bonifacio 21, Ventura
Ethan Rutland 20, Ventura
Roberto Beltran 21, Oak View
Victim 1 is a homeless male sleeping on the pier. The four suspects approach and begin kicking him while he slept. When he awakens, the suspects begin verbally harassing him and striking him with their hands. The suspects then turn their attention to Victim 2, who just happens to be in the area. All four suspects begin to batter him as well, until he falls to the ground, at which point they begin to kick him repeatedly. A citizen on the pier observes the violence and calls the police.
All four suspects are found at or near the pier and were booked at County Jail for Assault by Means Likely to Cause Great Bodily Injury, a felony.
Both victims were transported to VCMC by ambulance and are still being treated as of this time.
The motives for the beatings are unknown.
These are familiar names to law enforcement. Mean spirited losers.
Anon
20 Sep 09 at 2:28 pm
Pathetic pathetic excuse for humans. Scum bags.
Lynneth
21 Sep 09 at 6:46 pm
They’re from Oak View? What is it with that place? Oak View really has become a problem.
Oak View
21 Sep 09 at 7:33 pm
THANK GOD for witnesses. IF it wasn’t for the precious witnesses, the beaters would always get away with their lies. Lies like “I was defending myself” . I love LOVE watching people who hurt other people go to jail! I could sit outside the jail all day and watch the beaters file in, hands chained behind their backs thinking about how much beating practice they’ve had now to win out over the other beaters.
Ojai chick
21 Sep 09 at 8:26 pm
What one should be asking is how did these kids end up like this. No respect for other life on the planet. And dont just blame the parents While they are partly to blame society has degraded, ask yourself why? What has changed in America in the last 50 yrs.
Time to Expose the Lies
21 Sep 09 at 9:14 pm
I’m surprised the liberals aren’t jumping for joy over the excitement of seeing the interracial diversity of the attackers.
JUSTICE
22 Sep 09 at 9:51 am
Ethan Rutland birthday is September 19, looks like he got a little bit too drunk and decided to go beat on some homeless. What an idiot.
Anonymous
22 Sep 09 at 12:23 pm
rhetorical question: where in the world does that sentiment come from JUSTICE?
liberal
22 Sep 09 at 12:49 pm
Justice, why don’t you go back to GlennBeckastan and leave us sane folks alone…?
Don be silly
22 Sep 09 at 1:00 pm
JUSTICE,
It sounds like you are being served up. A truism in the world of OVN Blogging: Idiotic comments receive idiotic responses.
Anon.5
22 Sep 09 at 2:21 pm
The only one bringing race into this is you JUSTICE. My comment was about people who beat people. That does not mean certain people of certain ethnicities~ it means anyone who harms another.. period.
Ojai chick
22 Sep 09 at 3:10 pm
I demand civility and respect from each and everyone one of you!! Why have you resorted to name-calling?
Anon.5 is nothing but a mean spirited sock puppet. Or should I say John Doe.
Please leave me alone. I am only here to point out what I observe.
JUSTICE
22 Sep 09 at 4:47 pm
Time to Expose the Lies — I LIKE your handle.
Yes …
“What one should be asking is how did these kids end up like this. …. dont just blame the parents While they are partly to blame society has degraded, ask yourself why? What has changed in America in the last 50 yrs.”
Or perhaps the last 10-20 years? We’d probably agree that the roots are much deeper, though. Keep asking the right questions in public: it will get through a few thick skulls eventually.
And “JUSTICE” — I’m TRULY surprised that you’re “surprised” at being called names for pointing out the obvious. Didn’t you know it is gauche to point at the “Emperor’s New Clothes”? Civility? Respect? Ha Ha
If you make people think they’re thinking, they’ll LOVE you, but if you make people actually think, they’ll HATE you.
White Tribe Activist
22 Sep 09 at 6:48 pm
… and I STILL think there’s something in the air in MO. Or maybe it’s oak-root fungus spores? How about an evil “gang-vortex” beaming down from Krotona Hill? Or maybe the peace-n-love rays from the Pink Moment just don’t quite make it to Oak View?
White Tribe Activist
22 Sep 09 at 6:51 pm
White Tribe, do you even know that Krotona is simply a Theosophical society? All it is, is a place where you can learn about different religious and spiritual practices. I used to take my son up there on rare occasion and walk around the paths when he was knee high. We used to catch lizards (then let them go) its a nice quiet place to go and recharge your spiritual batteries. It certainly isn’t evil. To anyone else, yes I know it’s not a playground either. I used to use their library a lot which meant I had to bring along my kid, which is why we broke the time up with strolls outside.
By the way, thanks OVN for thinking my post above was note worthy enough to publish it in the newspaper. I guess it is obvious that my feelings are pretty close to the surface on this topic, thats another story.
Ojai chick
23 Sep 09 at 1:47 pm
Her comment was published???? Are you kidding me??? What about mine??
JUSTICE
23 Sep 09 at 2:50 pm
Well lets see White Tribe… We had segregation 50 years ago. We had lynchings 100 years ago. Genoicide throughout the two continents 200 hundred years ago…All instigated by the your tribe.
Lead us! Yes, lead us!!
White Tribe Buffon
23 Sep 09 at 5:36 pm
WTF,
Justice is served.
JUSTICE
23 Sep 09 at 8:58 pm
OMG — where to begin ???
Justice, I forgot to give you cred for your earlier comment … Juvenal would be proud of your ironic satire on “name calling”. Good stuff!
Ojai Chick — refer to Juvenal if you want to “get” my comment about “a gang vortex beaming down from Krotona”. It MUST be something like that, or in the water, etc. Sanctified “truth” says it CAN’T be the mix of tribes in MO/OV, right? . Yup, your take is “pretty close to the surface” … in the shallow end of the pool too!
Buffo(o)n — You probably agree with New York Jewish Intellectual Susan Sontag that “The White Race is the Cancer of Human History”, right? Mighty “liberal” point of view, that.
In case you haven’t noticed, “we” still have “segregation” (check out certain neighborhoods), and “we” still have genocide. In fact, the genocide of the White Tribe is in progress as we speak.
We’re not talking about flooding Africa with non-Africans, making the Africans pay for their health care, education, welfare, etc., and forcing Africans to mix themselves out of existence.
We’re not talking about flooding Mexico with non-Mexicans, making the Mexicans pay for their health care, education, welfare, etc., and forcing Mexicans to mix themselves out of existence.
We’re not talking about flooding China with non-Chinese, making the Chinese pay for their health care, education, welfare, etc., and forcing the Chinese to mix themselves out of existence.
No … we talking about flooding ONLY White countries with non-Whites, forcing Whites to mix with them, pay for them, etc.
“Anti-racism” is just a code-word for Anti-White
It’s genocide
White Tribe Activist
24 Sep 09 at 10:06 am
One thing I forgot to mention …
If people in traditionally “White” countries are so horrible, so oppressive, so racist, so (fill in the blank) … why are people from other Tribes constantly trying to get into White countries? Maybe those other Tribes are the real “White Supremacists”! They do seem to prefer our space/culture to their native one …
To cut down my rant, I suggest reading http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Hoste-Freaks.html#RH for more on this phenomenon.
Many here have probably read Schumacher’s “Small Is Beautiful”. Schumacher dedicated that book to his mentor Leopold Kohr. View some of Kohr’s thinking here http://www.smallisbeautiful.org/publications/illich_94.html and here http://www.williamfranklin.com/4thworld/adobe/chapter2.pdf
Kohr is definitely swimming in the deep end of the pool.
White Tribe Activist
24 Sep 09 at 11:00 am
A “white country”???? WTF!
Down with wasteful spending
24 Sep 09 at 11:05 am
No one is forcing anyone to do anything WT. By the way, I resent your name calling and snarky comments which you employ in all your answers. Sure you are going to have neighborhoods where ethnic groups tend to hang together but that is changing. Things are getting better here in the US and opportunity is there for those who work for it. I have endless optimism about the direction our great Country is going in and please spare me a your hand picked examples of crime and of who is doing it.
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. You say this is happening to whites? Show me one example of someone who is exterminating the white race? Guess what, I’m not afraid, no one is cracking a whip at my back and forcing me onto a train to God knows where. As for the “forcing” , no one else here spends as much time on this blog arguing that your way is the right way and everyone else is “hard headed” and yet you keep your solution just out reach, hinting at something on the lines of splitting up the Country or making certain neighborhoods all white or brown but not quite coming out with it. You think too highly of yourself as you take your World view and speak to people as though you are some kind of guru of whom we are supposed to listen and adopt your ways. You are the most forceful person here. No wonder all the other bloggers are telling you to shove it.
Ojai chick
24 Sep 09 at 11:12 am
WC — I’ll try to reduce the level of “snarkiness” … lol.
Here’s a relevant section of the ’48 Geneva Genocide Convention:
“Article 2
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”
Focus on 2(c) for a moment. The “conditions of life” for a people include the maintenance of their “cultural surround”, the structure of language, meaning and purpose that they rely on to define and maintain their sense of identity and purpose, not to mention their continuity through time. If this is disrupted by a massive influx of people who not only don’t speak the same language(s), but have very different EGI (Ethnic Genetic Interests), the integrity of said People will be harmed. If there is a purposeful attempt to break down, break up, dilute, distort, delegitimize, demonize, defame, etc. said People’s culture … then you’re in the territory of Genocide. This is what is happening to the White Tribes in their home spaces today.
You ask me to “show you one example” of this. I submit the whole project of politically-correct “multiculturalism” as exhibit #1.
True diversity is destroyed by “multiculturalism”. It literally “Kills the Genes” (genocide) of those subjected to it. It also kills the Cultural Genes embodied in a people via its traditions, history, and more. Diversity requires some degree of separation, and control of space by any given People to prevent the destruction of what they ARE. Mixing it all up is genocide.
I think it’s kind of funny that there’s a lot of “snarky” commentary directed at any expression of self-conscious White ethnic identity, yet almost no criticism of the self expression of ethnic identity by “other-than-white” people. Ever hear of “La Raza”? NAACP? Why the double standard folks?
Above I mentioned EGI, or Ethnic Genetic Interests. For those inclined to further research, check out the writings of Frank Salter on that topic. It’s pretty easy to find on the net.
White Tribe Activist
24 Sep 09 at 12:40 pm
White Tribe,
KNEW it there! The angry/marginalized racist finally shows his face…Tell us about those g**damn New York Jewish intellectual’s (why just New York?) and those mongrels (MONGRELS!…) that taint this land (and your seed…) — turning you into a shell of a man. We can tell you’re just warming up…. Don’t stop!!
G. Beck
24 Sep 09 at 1:01 pm
Beck — I don’t know what you “KNEW” … but your choice of language in setting up your strawman points to you being the “angry” one in this equation.
Don’t confuse your projections with what I’m trying to say, OK?
As for the intellectual group of which Susan “The White Race is the Cancer of Human History” Sontag is/was a part … it’s a rather interesting topic! Dr. Kevin MacDonald has written extensively on this in his book “The Culture of Critique”.
But Ms Sontag’s defamation of Whites isn’t limited to her group, and it’s not limited to New York. For an overview of anti-white defamation in the USA, a good resource is http://www.resistingdefamation.org/
Resisting Defamation is highly recommended to those who want to “think outside the box” !
As for me being a “shell of a man”, “just warming up” … LOL!
White Tribe Activist
24 Sep 09 at 2:02 pm
Oh man, you really don’t know what GENOCIDE really means. Oh my GOD! I don’t want to give too much away about myself but I am very familiar with GENOCIDE allright, and it has happened to the Jews it has happened to the Armenians even Saddam Houssein did it. You take section C and do what????? ‘Deliberately bringing upon the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or part.’ This is where you break into your POV. You’re not talking about damning up a life-giving river to a group of people living below, you aren’t talking about stopping life-giving trade missions of invaluable medicines and food to people who rely on it to live or rounding up a group of people and putting them on a deserted Island and going Sayanara and good luck , you are trying to say that section C means that Mexicans are here and they don’t speak our language and they are forcing us to eat their tacos and burritos, listen to their music and forcing us to learn how to say Lo Siento and Por Favor and Adios. OMG!!!!! (to quote you) we’re dying as a white race!!! LOL (to quote you). It is just the opposite. THey are having to learn English even if we are also nicely trying to learn Spanish you know to be neighborly. THey can’t litter here like in Mexico or they will get fined up the yin yang, like any other white idiot that litters. If you beat someone up here you are going to the pokey. The US is great and its getting greater. All those things you mention in your geneva convention description of genocide can sadly be said of the Native Americans that were here before us. They can be aptly applied to Blacks that were brought here on slave ships, the English and Irish no doubt probably tried to wipe each other out in the early days here too.
White tribe activist, one thing you sadly fail at ~ being a guru. So far, no followers. Not that the rest of us agree with each other, note the Obama haters, but at least unlike you, we don’t try to force our WORLD view on to other people day after life sucking day like your life depends upon it.
Ojai chick
24 Sep 09 at 3:02 pm
By the way, I’ve been eating burritos and tacos for all my life. It would upset my continuity of life if all of a sudden the Mexicans packed up and left us without genuine homestyle Mexican food. Same goes for Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Indian and Italian. In fact if they all go, I think I will curl up and die.
Ojai chick
24 Sep 09 at 3:14 pm
OC — no guru, no force, and no viewpoint that ONLY White people have suffered at various kinds of genocide throughout history. Am I “forcing” you to respond to my thoughts? Ha Ha Ha.
Don’t know if you’ve looked at the Resisting Defamation link I gave above, but there are some pretty good discussions of just what you’re talking about above under the “Attacking Back” part of their outline. It’s on the main page. Check out the subsections titled “One-Sided History”, “Universalism = Monoculturalism”, “Slave Taking and Slave Trading”, “Multiculturalism” and “Silencing Tactics”.
I point you to these links so you don’t have to hear me repeat what’s already been said better than I could say it. That should make everyone happy!
White Tribe Activist
24 Sep 09 at 3:30 pm
PS: OC … never forget to KILL THE MESSENGER! Try to KILL THE MESSENGER before anyone gets a chance to read the message!
White Tribe Activist
24 Sep 09 at 3:32 pm
WTA,
You must present your profound treatise on the Ojai Post website. The audience there is sure to embraced your obvious intellectual prowess. A prowess that leaves the common man (Jew and gentile) truly stupefied.
Muary Goldberg
24 Sep 09 at 3:41 pm
Muary — I’m happy commenting here for the time being. You folks do bring up some interesting stuff!
And Maury, please don’t put the diverse White European American People into the box of “gentile”. That’s a Judeo-centric term which smothers diversity by lumping us all into one “not-Jewish” group.
We “common men” come in more than two flavors.
White Tribe Activist
24 Sep 09 at 4:01 pm
WTA,
I afraid this will be my final e-mail. My wife – a gentile – feels further communication with anyone choosing to hide behind such a childish moniker in order to spout hatred lacks “huevos” (her term…) in the first place.
By the way, we have five children (sons; all practicing Jews) prospering right here in the Valley. You undoubtedly patronize one or more of their business w/o even knowing it. Shalom!
Maury G.
24 Sep 09 at 5:44 pm
Shalom & Peace Maury (and wife and sons)
White Tribe Activist
24 Sep 09 at 6:13 pm
I wonder if Jimmy and Alex Medina could have visited
Mexico and partied with the many indigenous groups there
and left the violent Chicano lifestyle here in California behind? Things in Ojai would have been much
different. I saw a movie, “Altered States,” 28 years ago. They smoked Oaxacan, ate magic mushrooms, peyote,
and had a life altering experience. If all the Mexicans
here in the Ojai Valley could do this, peace and
brotherly love would smother their violent, Chicano
lifestyle. Too bad Jimmy and Alex never went to Oaxaca.
oak view local
25 Sep 09 at 9:22 am