Not-So-Smart Meters?
L.S. Leiterman
S.C. Edison still intends to install Smart Meters on every home in Ojai next spring, despite the facts that Smart Meters will not work in Ojai because of the mountains, unless they raise the frequency level so high above the legal levels that the radiation will be unsafe for humans and animals, not to mention likely killing all the bees we need for our lovely orange and avocado orchards to survive.Unsafe levels of radiation means it can kill you and your children and pets with cancer!
And these Smart Meters will have collection stations on random houses (and that may be your house), where the amount of radiation will be roughly equivalent to having a cell tower on your house. And you will have no right to refuse if you want electricity.Studies have shown the incidence of cancer and deaths from cancer are very much higher for those who live near cell towers or within 50 miles of nuclear power plants. And who will pay for that health care? And have there been environmental impact studies done on the health hazards of all of this harmful and potentially deadly radiation prior to installing these meters on our so-called private property?
Our federal government, which already has a huge debt, is planning to spend about $5 billion to install these so-called Smart Meters, while citizens go without needed health care and pensions and SSI is being cut.And who is going to pay for it?We, the taxpayers and clients of Edison, will pay. Now I understand that our federal government has plans for the Gas Company and the water companies to install Smart Meters as well. And who will pay?
And any old wiring will not support the Smart Meters and can cause your house to burn down. Ojai is full of old houses with old wiring, which gives the town character and charm. And many people on low or fixed incomes cannot afford to pay to have their homes rewired.
I have yet to hear any good reason why we need these Smart Meters and many reasons why they are extremely hazardous and a waste of money.
I suggest that we the people of Ojai Valley take steps while we still can to protect the health of our Shangri-La and to ensure that Ojai remains a Smart Meter Free Zone. I hope that the Ojai Valley Defense Fund may undertake to organize this project. And until the temporary so-called Patriot Act is revoked and our constitutional rights restored, the only way to stop Smart Meters is in the courts.Ojai citizens discovered that last year when our state broke into and entered private properties all over Meiners Oaks and parts of Mira Monte and sprayed pesticides on our organic orchards and gardens and yards to kill a few gypsy moths found miles away,despite citizens’ refusals and protests, and we were powerless to stop that invasion to protect our property and organic gardens and trampling of our constitutional right to privacy and to be secure in our persons and homes.
(Seeelectromagnetichealth.organdwww.stopsmartmeters.org.)
It’s only your’s and your families’ lives and health! To request our City Council to take action to protect us from the dangers of Smart Meters, come to Little House on Sept. 13 at 7 p.m.
L.S. Leiterman is a concerned citizen of the Ojai Valley.
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www.StopOCSmartMeters.com
We are working hard in the Orange County area to inform our neighbors of the coming Smart Meters. Everyone deserves to know the dangers of the Smart Grid. Former CIA Director James Woolsey calls the Smart Grid a “really, really stupid grid”.
Check out our website Stop OC Smart Meters
Smart meters violate all international EMF safety laws. Check it out There is already a class action lawsuit in Oregon right now re wireless. Google some of the expert witnesses: Barry Trower, who designed these frequencies for the military to be used as weapons of mass destruction. Harvard physician David Carpenter MD. Curtis Bennett, electrical thermographic heat specialist.
Biologists & others. The word you are looking here for is ILLEGAL. What is illegal is electrical induction which is caused by the frequencies, which slowly heat the body from the core outward. Any body. Including pollinators, birds, bats, butterflies, all biological creatures. The frequencies override the natural lines of flux of the earth on which we all depend for survival. Under Safety Code Six in Canada this is already illegal. Health Canada omitted to mention this to the WHO which already declared these frequencies a carcinogen. The meters enable illegal frequencies which can be “augmented” & multiplied remotely. Defend your reliable mechanical safe and insurable analog meter now and by so doing defend yourselves and your families. Fight back.
And by the way, Alex, I already had symptoms using cell phones and being in places with wifi so I avoided these whenever possible. Then transmitting water meters that pulse signals every 5 seconds from every home went into my neighborhood. I got very sick, flu-like symptoms, insomnia, joint problems, brain fog, and these symptoms come back if I spend time in my home. I cannot go into my own backyard (where 5 homes face) without feeling like a freight truck has hit me in the head, and my ability to think clearly takes several days to come back. These emissions can be measured, and people sensitive to them should NOT be subjected in their own homes and yards.
@Alex, You will find a wide variety of people against forced installation of radiation-producing smart meters on their homes, from liberals to greens to conservatives, and yes, even some tea party members. This issue is a human rights and health issue that TRANSCENDS political affiliations.
It has been very interesting reading the comments here as someone in Orange County, CA who recently became aware of the smart meter problem when S.C.E. announced they were coming to change my meter. It’s funny because the Energy Policy Act of 2005 only mandates public utilities to supply a smart meter if the customer “asks” for it. Those of you who think this is much ado about nothing are suffering from the old paradigm of how to boil a frog. Slowly, very slowly our rights are stepped on, this new regulation here, another new regulation there, but we mustn’t make a fuss, it’s for our own good right? And so it goes until we are mere blobs of humanity with no voice. It’s great that some of you who have smart meters are not affected…yet. This is not a liberal or conservative issue. Do your research. It will be easier to not have the smart meter installed than have it removed once you realize your health is being affected. Best of luck to all of you in Ojai who don’t want the smart meters.
More reasons for the citizens of Ojai to ban Smart Meters for ALL utilities:
‘No one is disputing CPUC’s authority to contract with whomever it pleases. What is disputed is CPUC contracting with PG&E and then foisting the provisions of this private, unrevealed contract onto the public. Clearly the California legislature did not intend for private contracts struck by CPUC to be used arbitrarily against the citizens, nor was their intent to enable a system of spying and endangerment of public health.
CPUC has NO authority over private citizens and cannot arbitrarily subject them to a product or service they do not want and surely do not need. This is a clear violation of the Commerce clause of the Constitution; no one can be forced to buy a product they do not want or be forced to enter into an unrevealed contract with another entity most especially through coercion and extortion. The jurisdiction referred to is actually a privately struck corporate contract and can be enforced only within the contracting party’s.
In an effort to deflect the growing revolt over the meters as a result of the health hazards they represent and, because the claimed savings from having one of these hazardous meters installed is non-existent, PG&E has resorted to extortion, using coercion to pressure consumers into allowing them to install the meter. While many citizens objected to the meters at town hall meetings with PG&E, the spokesmen for PG&E claimed there was no “opt-out” provision, but had to admit that there was in fact, no mandate giving them authority to install the meters. As no mandate exists, there can be no “opt-in”, such as forced compliance either, but PG&E carefully never mentions that.
These Meters represent a direct threat to the over all health of communities and should never have been installed on the first home, much less 15 million+ homes.
From the Federal perspective, entire states or regions of the US could be denied access to power as a means of coercing citizens into complying with Federal mandates and encroachment. This switch would be invaluable in case of civil unrest …(its actual intended use)… in cutting phones, lights, heat, air conditioning and overall power access in the event of some paranoid fantasy being expressed in the homeland security agency, the military, or even in the White House.
The switch has no other intended purpose other than disabling an area in order to cut communications and necessary power in order to disable a civil revolt. (I wonder why they are so worried about that?)
As the second and third phase of this control grid is put into place, water, electricity and gas will be delivered only as long as we are able to pay the inflated rates based on market activity and only so long as we cooperate with federal encroachment.
The noose tightens.’
http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/07/30/smart-meters-a-triple-threat/
Lloyd,
> Just the Facts–please enlighten us to the “pesticide” that the organic farmers were using on their crops that State Ag was using on the gypsy moth.
Actually, I said that the CDFA applied the pesticide, and that if any organic farmers consented, then that was their prerogative.
With respect to the type of pesticide used, you can do your own research. But I think your point is that it wasn’t a pesticide. Let me enlighten you…
“Pesticides are substances or mixture of substances intended for preventing, destroying, repelling or mitigating any pest.[1] A pesticide may be a chemical substance, biological agent (such as a virus or bacterium), antimicrobial, disinfectant or device used against any pest. ” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesticide)
By this definition, the substance used by the CDFA was in fact a pesticide.
The substance was applied by force (under the order of a warrant) without some Ojai Valley property owners’ consent and despite their objections.
Upper Ojai is not in Ojai.
My 2 cents to this discussion. Have any of you gone out and looked at your meter lately? Does it have a digital readout or does it still have the little wheel twirling around? If it’s digital – well you now have a smart meter installed.
Like many you I’m not at home watching what is happening on my property every minute of the day. A few months ago I happened to walk by my meter box and went WOW I have a new digital meter – cool, when did that happen? Then I started hearing about ‘smart meters’.
Also, does anyone read that last page of the monthly electric bill that carries all the rebates, misc info? Well in the Dec 2010 bill it alerted everyone smart meters were coming (I missed it, but a friend recently showed me the last page of his Dec 2010 bill), and about a month or so ago it told all of us pay-as-you-go (smart metering) would go into affect approx Dec 2011.
So, yep SCE installed a smart meter on my property without my knowledge, and yep they’ve told us the pay-as-you-go rates are coming for over a year.
Were their methods ‘sneaky’ – yes, but it’s the new reality we’re looking at. So all I can say is go solar – if you can afford it, and next year yes our electric bills will go up.
Alex, you only offer opinions, not facts.
The RF safety assessment done by Sage most certainly does includes Smart Meters. If you are suggesting Sage did not use sound science, please prove it.
And what about the rest of the large body of evidence I posted? What about the info from the World Health Organization? What about Dr. David Carpenter, a Harvard Medical School-trained physician who currently directs the Institute for Health and the Environment? You haven’t debunked anything.
Also, the article you posted offered no scientific evidence at all, just an opinion, so it doesn’t matter who wrote it.
All science aside, Smart Meters are clearly a violation of our constitutional rights to privacy. For that reason alone the people of Ojai and Ventura County should ban them from installation.
Kevin, the newspaper article was not written by a reporter, rather the head of the Chabot Space and Science Center, he just controbutes to this particular paper. Sage is one of the “consultants” I reference as directly profiting from this anti-smart meter effort, and the WHO report your reference as debunking the CCST report does not contain the words “smart meter” even once. It deals with cellphones and all matter of RF, but does not debunk the safety of smart meters. Sue, with all due respect, you’re going to point to a non-profit sponsored by academic institutions and whose assistive council includes nobel laureates and say they can’t be trusted because there is some collaboration with private sector firms? But Sage Associates, whose qualifications I find murky to begin with is to be wholeheartedly trusted? The CCST’s report concludes that “there is no clear evidence that additional standards are needed to protect the public from smart meters.”
As the comment above proves, some people start drinking entirely too early in the day.
Kevin, whadda ’bout the “spook locators”???!!
There is something I don’t like about the article and all the people here jumping in all at once, using it as a political tool. You’re asking us to believe this that and the other and now go vote conservative. Just point the way and we’ll look into it. I don’t want to get zapped but I don’t know if smart meters are seriously going to destroy us in the apocolyptical fashion laid out by Leiterman. I always question people that, peel back the layers and they have a faceless , conglomerate boogie man pulling wires behind the scenes and operating a polititian who will fool us with his regular guy face. Of course the polititian they want is always a nice guy who wants to expose the evil person of the opposite party. The bad guy’s goal is to eventually destroy Earth which would bring about the scene in the Bibles book of Revelations. No thank you. I always do my research independently, especially when it comes to stuff people put in the OVN blog.
Alex, I started reading your link to CCST report and a red flag went up pretty quickly:
CCST is a non‐profit organization established in 1988 at the request of the California State Government and sponsored by the major public and private post secondary institutions of
California and affiliate federal laboratories in conjunction with leading private‐sector firms.
CCST’s mission is to improve science and technology policy and application in California by proposing programs, conducting analyses, and recommending public policies and initiatives
that will maintain California’s technological leadership and a vigorous economy.
So it seems that this study was funded by people (private firms) with a vested interest in the developing technology. Is this someone we can trust to come up with the facts? And basically all the report says is they don’t know the effects!
Actually, that’s not a bad idea. We know solar is profitable because Edison is building solar panel farms instead of building new coal plants:
http://www.grist.org/solar-power/2011-02-09-southern-california-edison-signs-another-big-photovoltaic-farm
As far as the hired thugs are concerned, we can easily stop them simply by building chicken coops around the solar panel farm. Then the panels would be protected by bears!
Now Ojai,…So you bills go up 900% in the summer due to peak service times!
Time to bite the bullet and go solar!!! How about 3 times your capacity and sell Edison back 2/3′s of your power during peak times!!!and charge them for it!!!
If half of California did this, then Edison would cry to Washington saying we are taking advantage of them. Then they would probally hire thugs to destroy our solar panels by night in order to free themselves from bondage!!!
Lloyd, when you were typing that advice, I hope you were looking in the mirror.
Alex, you said, “She’s not a scientist, not an engineer’… How about an impartial analysis?”
You then posted a link to a newspaper editorial. How is it that a newspaper reporter qualifies as “scientist” and “engineer”?
Your second link refers to a report that was discredited by a scientific study I previously posted here:
http://sagereports.com/smart-meter-rf/
And a World Health Organization report here:
http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2011/pdfs/pr208_E.pdf
Rich Young, there is no “Federal and International Law” mandating the installation of Smart Meters.
In fact, several states have already banned the installation of Smart Meters. Here in California, eight counties and over forty cities have either banned or restricted Smart Meter installation:
California, USA: 42 communities and counties have banned smart meters:
https://sites.google.com/site/nocelltowerinourneighborhood/home/wireless-smart-meter-concerns
Maryland and Hawaii, USA: Both, put the brakes on the deployment there, due to concerns about the costly technology resulting in increased utility bills and believing that other more practical solutions may be better:
http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/publish/Business_Policy_Regulation_News/What-Others-Are-Saying-About-the-BG-E-Ruling-2565.html
http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/publish/Business_Policy_Regulation_News/Hawaii-PUC-Kicks-Back-Smart-Meter-Project-Tells-Utility-to-Try-It-Again-2795.html
Pennsylvania, USA: State utility regulators halt the smart meter plan because of the costs on consumers outweigh the supposed benefits. Read:
Public Utility Law Project of New York (PULP): “Pennsylvania Regulators Halt Expensive ‘Smart Meter’ Plan,” Oct. 29, 2009:
http://pulpnetwork.blogspot.com/2009/10/pennsylvania-regulators-halt-expensive.html
2008, University of Pittsburgh, PA, Department of Epidemiology letter of Warning
http://www.epidemiology.pitt.edu/news/News_Display.asp?link=357 , http://www.mcgowan.pitt.edu/news/article.asp?qEmpID=412
Kevin, good stuff you’re providing for us to look up and ponder.
No need though to throw the baby out with the bath water, we are trying to have an informative conversation here and hopefully you can edumicate us. “Personal attack?” you might ponder the definition of that. Alex’s “crazy and convoluted opinions” are no more, possibly less crazy than your own. Just answer the questions, engage in the back in forth, no one called you any names, we’re batting it around. Let’s keep it on the high road! You might show us the way if you don’t turn us away first. I still maintain you’re not wrong. Time will show us if you’re right, like it did with cigarettes.
OK, an anti smart meter activist does some sort of testing, and because she wrote about it you now have proof positive. Really? She’s not a scientist, not an engineer, but apparently the only person in this universe who bought a meter and tested the emissions from a smart meter, and low and behold she found it to be nuking the universe like a french fry in hot oil. How about an impartial analysis?
Here’s an article I found to be interesting: http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_18326332?
and an analysis from an organization that has no dog in this race, performed an “independent science based study”:
http://www.ccst.us/publications/2011/2011smart-final.pdf
Sorry folks. The meters are fully sattelite capable and can read in both directions on the electric circuits. This means, “you will be wired for sound, outdoor and indoor usage monitoring.” The Democrat Congress passed the law via United Nations Project 21 Mandate. This is covered by Federal and International Law. Next time, vote Conservatively.
Here is an independent report concerning the safety of Smart Meters from:
Sage Associates
Environmental Consultants
Santa Barbara, CA
‘Existing safety limits for pulsed RF were termed
“not protective of public health”
by the Radiofrequency Interagency Working Group (a federal interagency working group including the FDA, FCC, OSHA, the EPA and others).
…the National Toxicology Program listed RF as a potential carcinogen for study…
There are no current, relevant public safety standards for pulsed RF involving chronic exposure of the public, nor of sensitive populations, nor of people with metal and medical implants that can be affected both by localized heating and by electromagnetic interference (EMI) for medical wireless implanted devices.
Thus, the explosion of wireless technologies is producing radiofrequency radiation exposures over massive populations before questions are answered by federal studies about the carcinogenicity or toxicity of low-intensity RF such as are produced by smart meters and other SmartGrid applications of wireless.
In summary, no positive assertion of safety can be made by the FCC, nor relied upon by the CPUC, with respect to pulsed RF when exposures are chronic and occur in the general population.
Indiscriminate exposure to environmentally ubiquitous pulsed RF from the rollout of millions of new RF sources (smart meters) will mean far greater general population exposures, and potential health consequences.
Uncertainties about the existing RF environment (how much RF exposure already exists), what kind of interior reflective environments exist (reflection factor), how interior space is utilized near walls), and other characteristics of residents (age, medical condition, medical implants, relative health, reliance on critical care equipment that may be subject to electronic interference, etc) and unrestrained access to areas of property where meter is located
all argue for caution.’
http://sagereports.com/smart-meter-rf/
Lloyd, I am only reposting credible evidence with links that can easily be searched and verified by anyone. Alex, the real nonsense is your convoluted theories and crazy opinions asserted as facts. Both of you, please take your useless personal attacks, that only embarrass yourselves, back under the troll bridge.
I remember when I was young, it was considered impolite to ask visitors to not smoke in one’s own home. Doctors used to say cigarettes were beneficial to our health because smoking helped us to relax. Of course, there were numerous “scientific” studies that all PROVED smoking was harmless and did not cause cancer. But those studies proved to be false, and the tobacco companies who funded the bogus research were sued and lost billions of dollars for hiding the truth for decades, which caused the deaths of tens of millions of people.
Today, the dangers of cell phones, wifi and smart meters are also being hidden from the public. However, real scientists now have credible evidence to prove they are harmful to our health.
Similar symptoms of ill health are reported worldwide by people of all ages who are exposed to wireless technologies:
http://www.citizensforsafetechnology.org/health-effects,6,0
Smart Meters DO NOT emit less radiation than cell phones:
http://stopsmartmeters.org/2011/05/05/the-radiation-readings-were-so-high-i-had-to-get-an-additional-piece-of-equipment-to-read-how-high-the-spikes-went/
World Health Organization – IARC CLASSIFIES RADIOFREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS AS
POSSIBLY CARCINOGENIC TO HUMANS:
http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2011/pdfs/pr208_E.pdf
Sue, the smart meter opposition has an argument that boils down to this: excessive RF from electronic devices is dangerous, smart meters emit RF therefore smart meters will give you cancer. That’s a mighty broad leap when you’re talking about a device that emits far, far less than the cellphone you press against your head several times a day or even your microwave. Most of our homes already have wifi and other transmissions that exceed even what a hundred smart meters would transmit, so while looking at the cumulative levels in your house if you have small children who could be impacted may not be a bad idea, pointing at smart meters as the first step towards apocalypse is juvenile at best. The fact that their argument uses scare tactics including your house burning down, the government selling your personal information to marketers, and utilities having easier control over shutting your power down really detracts from any substantive argument, so I’m with Lloyd on thinking that if there was really something concrete there, why would they be throwing in nonsense like that? LS’s editorial and Kevin’s comments are sentence after sentence of fear mongering intended to scare the elderly and all of us into believing something that isn’t there, and I suspect many of the posters here are not Ojai residents rather anti smart meter campaigners and “consultants” looking at this as a business opportunity for themselves (Sage and others who have been pushing the ‘data’). I notice the experts these people keep pointing to are participating in speaking engagements all over the country, producing report anfter report and videos; there’s obviously money to be made protecting us from these evils.
Just the Facts–please enlighten us to the “pesticide” that the organic farmers were using on their crops that State Ag was using on the gypsy moth.
Oh, Sue, no need to be turned off by someone opining that someone else is being hysterical! Remember, I’m not saying I oppose this I am just saying that when Kevin says that things will explode, the NSA will start looking into your business and that you house wiring will melt, etc., etc., and then someone else in these pages who actually has the Smart Meter says that this hasn’t happened, it then makes you doubt something that may have merit! I don’t know one way or the other, I’m just trying to find out. In the computer age you can’t just go along “trusting” every thing everybody says (though you can consider and weigh). At this point, frankly (perhaps this will disturb you)
I neither trust the power company nor Kevin. But, I’ll weigh what both says and get back to you. Fair enough?
Lloyd, I’m turned off at your accusation that Kevin has an hysterical style. He has provided lots of information by authoritative qualified people by putting up links for us to check out. HOw can that be considered hysterical? Perhaps you are projecting. Thank you Kevin and L.S. Leiterman, I’ve learned alot that I didn’t know about this. I will not be one to have this on my house!
Living Nightmare: How SDG&E Smart Meter Led to Headaches, Hearing Loss
http://lamesa.patch.com/blog_posts/living-nightmare-how-sdge-smart-meters-led-to-my-headaches-sleeping-ills-hearing-loss
Okay Kevin, point well taken, and now we’d like to hear what you think we should do. Clean and load our guns, sue the bastards?
Where I’m coming from is this: I have lived for years following fear: The Cuban Missile Crisis, The Communists, The Terrorists, Cancer, California WILL drop off into the ocean on this or that day, Obama is a Muslim born in Indonesia, The Bird Flu, Hanta Virus, “They” are taking our guns, “They are taking our Freedoms”, aliens from outer space, Y2K….need I go on? Even if what you and L.S. Leiterman are writing is correct, may I propose for just a moment that you sound HYSTERICAL? And, may I also suggest for a moment that when you use hysterical hyperbole that you cease convincing people and make them think you’re a little bit on the lunatic fringe (even if all or part of what you write is correct)? I’ll make you a deal, I’ll try on what you’re writing about and read your you tube reference if you “try on” what I’m trying to say. Deal? (By the way I’m not saying I disagree with what you’re saying, I’m turned off by HOW you are saying it.)
Good point Kev! Along with “spook” locators woven into US currency and toilet seats — they’re tracking our every move….
How strange that some people are actually willing to give up their health for the false sense of privacy.
If you allow a Smart Meter to be installed on your house, the meter man won’t come in your yard every month. However in return, the electric company will come into your house 24/7/365 and monitor the use of every single electrical device! Then they will sell your personal home use information to marketing companies.
Of course, the police, FBI, CIA, NSA and various other spook agencies will have complete access to your information without the need for a warrant. How convenient! Is a complete lack of privacy in your own home really what you want?
The electric company is contracted to deliver power- not radio frequencies, they do not have the lawful right to modulate my usage of power, monitor my electrical activity, or deliver extra frequencies into my wiring. All of this is possible using Smart Meters.
Here’s a video that explains exactly how Smart Meters are actually big brother:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwlXqE_g40M
And how many people will be put out of work because of this?
well said Alex. I also must add that our home is very old (circa 1930) and we didn’t have to do any re-wiring or anything. It seems a much more efficient way to do things to me. .. and proably saves time for the meter readers.
We’ve had a smart meter on our property for a few years now. I like it. No one comes on our property to read a meter. I check the meter reading with the bill when it comes and make a note of the date of the next meter reading. So far it’s only been a good thing for us.
“Just the facts”, first, they will give us a way to track our own usage as we implement reduction strategies including solar, energy star appliances, LED lighting, etc. Second, when SCE maxes out during peak usage days, rather than roll the blackouts out across the board, they can pick for instance to keep nursing homes, SRO housing and other sensitive loads going and instead ramp down some of Walmart’s lighting temporarily (explains why the ultra right is trying to brainwash us into going against them). Third, knowing what the loads are from hour to hour allows the utility to better plan for peak demand and, yes, apply rates such that you and I can choose to save by not running high use appliances at noon on a triple digit day and let the corprations pay more to do so if they have to. Fourth, no more invasion of privacy with the meter reader coming into your yard every month. Honestly, this argument is akin to fighting the step forward from calculators to computers because they will let big brother in. Silly.
Alex, since you are apparently an advocate for these meters, please explain how they benefit anyone but the electric company and those who’d like to direct “resources”.
Lloyd, the issue with the gypsy moth spraying had as much to do with the CDFA forceably using the pesticide on private property (against the will of the property-owners) as it did with the pesticide itself. If local organic farmers conceded to the use of the pesticide on their farms, then that is their prerogative.
http://www.robertphoenix.com/content/?p=3713 link to interview with Joshua Hart, the founder of Stop Smart Meters.Org a true grassroots organization that is dedicated to stopping smart meters in their tracks http://www.stopsmartmeters.org/
Alex and Lloyd, if you don’t have any concrete evidence to present about Smart Meters, please do not attack L.S. Leiterman for having posted a blog about the dangers of Smart Meters. You only makes yourselves look foolish and no one else.
The fact is Smart Meters have not been used safely around the world for years or even for a day. There is compelling evidence to suggest no Smart Meter has ever been safe.
Please do your own research before making any more wild and irrelevant accusations about “Tea party propaganda” and “Pesticide Free Ojai”.
You may want to start with these claims against Smart Meters:
1. Radiofrequency interference causing malfunctioning of wireless equipment such as Wi-Fi and phones.
2. Radiofrequency interference causing malfunctioning of medical equipment such as pacemakers and wireless insulin pumps
3.Radiofrequency spikes causing appliances to break
4.Health effects like migraines, nausea, vomiting, muscle spasms, heart palpitations and sleeplessness caused by intense bursts of radiofrequency radiation that has just been classified as a “possible carcinogen” by the World Health Organization — in the same category as lead, engine exhaust and DDT
4. Cybersecurity breaches
5. Excessive billing
6. Interception of personal identity information
7. Electrical fires
Here’s a short video interview with ‘Dr. David Carpenter, a Harvard Medical School-trained physician who headed up the New York State Dept. of Public Health for 18 years before becoming Dean of the School of Public Health at the University of Albany, where he currently directs the Institute for Health and the Environment.’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7L21XOC2wA&feature=player_embedded
OK these meters sound like a bad idea, what do we do to oppose them??
Hmmm, L.S. Leiterman–”old houses burning down!”, “Gypsy Moth Spraying”, “bankruptcies caused from low income people having to rewire their homes!”, “property invasions by the government!”, “organic gardens trampled!” (uh huh all two of you who didn’t comply–after four local organic farmers issued a flyer telling you that they used the same biological control on their commercial crops that YOU buy at the farmer’s market….namely Sprinkle, Dautch, Churchill, and Essick) “levels of radiation killing me and my children!”
L.S. Leiterman come out whomever you are…..I smell Pesticide Free Ojai in there somewhere!
Wouldn’t it be great if our local paper actually delved more deeply into the kinds of issues that they go to the trouble of printing by way of peoples opinions? We get to get Patty Pagalings views on Arundo spraying (“feds spraying”–Jon Lawrence….?) and now smart meters. As the blogosphere has aptly taught us…everyone has an opinion on everything! Great thing! Bully! Huzzah! The trouble with journalism going on the wane is that we don’t get to hear a decently if not well researched look into whatever issues are assailing us. Like with smart meters; I for one no absolutely nothing one way or the other about this. OVN how does this effect us? Is L.S. Leiterman the resident expert on this matter? Who is L.S. Leiterman, and how do they know what they know? Are they right? What does OVN think? We know from your pages how you feel about local feel good events, de facto advertisements of every stripe, and reporting on school fairs. All good stuff! But you have the Pagalings, the Leitermans and the Ketelsens telling us all how it is and it is some serious stuff! Is this stuff true? Is there another side? What is it? Help us out here….Darryl Kelley? Fred Volz…..where are you….?
Tea party propaganda, week after week of poorly written smart meter smear campaign editorials full of lies and unfounded correlations, and now even littering the blog with the hysteria? Come on people, smart meters have been installed all over the world for years and are the next logical step towards becoming more efficient and targeting resources where and when we need them. Stop the fear mongering please.
Will these harm the Bears?
Smart Meters would allow the electric companies to charge more because they can measure not just how much power was consumed but when it was consumed e.g. during peak hours.
The Smart Meters would also allow the electric companies to more easily disconnect service.
The potential health risks aside, these meters don’t sound like they provide ANY value to the consumers (us). What’s more, if the state or federal government is helping to pay for them as the author claims, then that is our (the taxpayers) money being spent to subsidize these.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention L.S. Leiterman.
I Hope the O valley defense fund steps up, Not sure why they would stand idly by while the feds sprayed either, Cmon Ojai!!
Actually, Ojai does have the legal right to refuse these meters. There is no federal, state or county law that mandates their installation. Besides, whose town is this anyway?
Eight counties and over forty communities here in California have banned the installation of smart meters. Entire states like Pennsylvania, Maryland and Hawaii are planning to also ban smart meters.
For further info:
SMART METERS: CALIFORNIA CITY AND COUNTY DOCUMENTS: ORDINANCES, RESOLUTIONS, CORRESPONDENCE
http://www.smartmeterdangers.org/index.php/smart-meter-resources/90-smartmeter-city-county-calif-ordinances-docs
Radiofrequency Radiation: The Invisible Hazards of “Smart” Meters
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26082
“Smart” Meters: Not Smart. Not Green. Not Safe. Not Legal.
http://stopsmartmeters.org/